Evil Cheshire Cat
For the third interview at Failed Journalism, I spend a little time chatting with Evil Cheshire Cat from the Obviously Oblivious podcast. While Cat may catch a lot of ribbing from her studly co-hosts Tha Mike and South Philly Paul, Cat is quite the character herself. With her love for science and all things nerdy coming in second to none, Cat is one of those interviews where you learn so much about not only the person answering but the things that make them who they are.
Whether you are familiar with her through her years with Mike on the Awful Show or her intoxicating laugh on Obviously Oblivious every time something strikes her fancy, do yourself a favor and check out this interview. You're bound to learn something....even if that something is how to be a bug-hunting dweeb from North Carolina :)
JW: First off, happy belated 27th birthday. Did you do anything special for your birthday? How did this birthday stack up against the others in your long life of 27?
EC: Hey, thanks! Ya know, most of my birthdays are not great. Too much pressure, too much drinking…so this one was only mildly annoying in comparison to some I’ve had. Now, that is not to knock my wonderful husband, Steven, who always pulls together amazing birthday surprises every year. What he does always surprises me and makes me feel special. Just either myself or other people have to mess it up. From friends making out with guys I knowingly like at my own party (high school, of course), to no one showing up to a dance party I completely redid a room in my house for, to someone giving me a book on lesbianism wrapped in toilet paper sealed with a piece of chewing gum…nah, this one was pretty good. Actually, I had a really great surprise the day after my birthday when we recorded the latest Obviously Oblivious. Mike (Pilot) had apparently asked all of the listeners to send in happy birthday wishes and they responded so well that we were able to fill an entire show with their voicemails. I’d like to thank Mike, Paul and all of our listeners for really making my birthday this year. I was incredibly moved and I’m so thankful for our listeners.
JW: How did you get involved in the world of podcasting and what eventually led you to discuss the possibility of a show with Mike? Is podcasting something that you just stumbled upon or was it an interest that you jumped head first into?
EC: I’ll be honest, podcasting was never really something I immediately wanted to do myself. I was very much a listener at first. While doing tedious, repetitive work on the job, I found that listening to music just didn’t help take my brain away from what I was doing so I felt every minute of it. Audiobooks and talk-radio on the other hand engaged my brain and really helped the time fly by. I started on iTunes listening to talk radio stations. One day, I stumbled upon something called a podcast and experimented for a while trying to find something engaging. I was about to give up when I saw a smiley face icon for a podcast called The Awful Show. I thought at least, if it sucked like all the others I had tried, it didn’t advertise being anything great. This was my last try to find something interesting before going back to my talk-radio. Instant addiction. I was laughing and dropping sensitive scientific material left and right and loving it!
Then I stumbled upon other shows like Vomitus Prime, Mediocre Show, and a few podcast novels like J.C. Huchins’ “7th Son” and Phil Rossi’s “Cresent.” After The Awful Show brought me in, I just loved the medium. I guess it was because I grew up listening to audiobooks and old radio dramas like Suspense that I’ve really been into the amazing things that you could experience just listening to people talk plus a few sound effects. I think that is why The Awful Show stuck more than any other podcast. It had a lot of brilliant skits and commercials that highlighted what I loved about the audio format. That and it was horribly, horribly funny and dirty. I lived a bit of a sheltered life and so I’m very much a proponent of not just being raunchy for raunchy’s sake but being raunchy because that’s what happens to be on your mind, and, well, the show was four guys so you can imagine. Freedom to talk about whatever occurs to you despite what social etiquette dictates is something that podcasting really provides (that being said you can take me to a fancy dinner party and I’ll behave myself). I think that from hearing the creativity that was behind The Awful Show skits and being somewhat creative myself, I found myself daydreaming about all kinds of weird ideas in my head for skits. About the same time, I had struck up a dialogue with Tha Mike, co-host of The Awful Show at the time, telling him I was a fan, and we started exchanging e-mails.
I was part of a growing female fan base so, soon after, they decided to hold a creative contest of sorts for the title of Miss Awful Show 2008. We would get a weekly prompt and have to create a skit or song based on the prompt. I had a blast writing skits and it was really thrilling to craft something of my own in the audio format I had loved for so long. Of course there was also a lot of frustration, too, as I tried to navigate the editing know-how to bring my creations to life. Through the contest, I made a lot of friends and gained the respect of the podcaster whom I myself respected the most: Tha Mike. After the contest, Mike and I kept creating things (I was not the winner, in case you were wondering – but I’m OK with that). I was happy to help with skits or songs for their main show, and, in addition, they set aside a small segment called an “Awful Snack” for myself and the rest of the ladies from the competition to shoot the shit on…let’s face it, they really only wanted to hear us talk about lady parts. Essentially, it was my first mini-podcast. I really didn’t know what to do with myself. I’m used to just talking and people either listening or not, but having a podcast is asking people to take the time to listen to what you have to say. It is still hard for me to figure out how to handle that. Do I think I’m interesting? To myself, of course I am! To others, enough to download something I talk on? Who knows? I try not to think about it. But what it took for me to go from a little mini-show to my current and happy podcast home, Obviously Oblivious, was Mike. He always pushed me to be creative and to demonstrate what I can do. He brought me on his own Awful Snack and webantered really well. So, when I was losing steam with the ladies’ snack, he was also leaving the show, and it just sort of naturally became, ‘Hey, let’s try one out together.’ We never planned on it being as big as it is now. It was mostly just a way for us to keep talking and being creative together since we wouldn’t have the other show anymore. I still don’t recall who came up with the idea to do Obviously Oblivious first, but I know he still swears it was me.
JW: Often times, the dynamic of OO is the brother/sister-like relationship that you and Mike display (small arguments, quips, etc.). How did you come to meet Mike and why do you think you two have such good podcasting chemistry? Also, the same question applies for your relationship with South Philly Paul.
EC: Oh Mike, Mike, Mike. It’s the same old story. Boy meets girl and talks to her because he thinks she’s cute; girl annoys the shit out of boy; boy annoys the shit out of girl; sometime in between, they make each other laugh. (Laughs.) I’ve never had a relationship with anyone quite like I have with Mike. I actually think I get along with my real brother better. (Laughs.) We’re so alike in what we find hilarious…I mean, that was how we came to meet anyway, because I was such a fan of what he was doing with The Awful Show. And then he brought me on because he thought I was kind of clever, too. Creatively, and with our science nerdiness, we’re more like twins.
And then there’s everything else. I’m from the south and can’t bear direct criticism or the harsher play-teasing Mike’s a pro at. He’s a laid-back jokester that can’t deal with my intense pragmatism, taking him so seriously, and this-is-how-the-world-should-be-or-I’m-gonna-make-it-that-way-damnit attitude. We’re both pretty emotionally volatile, too. So, when we butt heads, we really hate each other for a bit. Then we cool off, make each other laugh and go through it all again. I’m not quite sure how it works but it does and, thankfully, the listeners find it entertaining.
Obviously Oblivious is absolutely a representation of our friendship and how we talk all the time. There have been many moments where I thought, ‘Man, I wish we were recording,’ on our phone conversations. We make each other laugh a lot. I think that’s our chemistry in a nutshell. We just make each other laugh and we feed off of each other that way. Not necessarily at the same time either…like if I’m being a grumpy bitch, it fuels Mike, and when he’s being utterly ridiculous, I feed off of him. It just works and I don’t question why. One day I’m going to strangle him though…if he doesn’t beat me to it, of course.
Paul and I aren’t as close personally, but I’m getting to know him better since his debut on Obviously Oblivious. I’ve been aware of Paul and his brilliance ever since I heard a voicemail of his on Vomitus Prime. With that ridiculous accent and the brilliant way he crafts his sentences to maximize hilarity — plus his intentional awkwardness — I think Paul is a master of his craft. Later on, they played one of his shows on The Awful Show and it was hysterical. I don’t know much about Paul as a guy other than he’s really fucking sweet and kind to everyone. He’s still sort of a mystery to me, but he plays sort of the comedic ninja role on the show. When Mike and I are bickering, he can take anything out of that dialogue and make it into a weapon of comedy. He’s great at fine tuning what each of us is saying and is quick to call us out when we’re full of it. I love having him as a permanent (hopefully) host on the show. I think he is the whipped cream and cherry on the top of our comedy sundae, and I’m excited to see how our dynamic continues to develop.
JW: If you could, maybe explain a little bit about yourself, where you're from and what you currently do as a profession. What got you so interested in science when you were younger? Was there ever anything else you wanted to be before you approached science as a serious career?
EC: From the very start of my life, I’ve always been prone to ways of thinking and investigating suited to science…long before I knew anything about what science entails. My mom says that when I popped out, I cried really quick and then immediately stopped and looked around as if I were already trying to scientifically analyze the world. She says I was very much an observer. As a kid I was infinitely more fascinated with the world and the how and why of things than socializing with other kids. My mom was a big influence because she always bought me science books to read and taught me to read pretty early, but I never knew if it was my scientific leanings that made her buy the books or if the books she bought gave me scientific leanings. I’m pretty sure she wanted me to grow up to be a doctor. I had encyclopedias, books on every topic, and, of course, there was a good bit of the fabulous Bill Nye later on, too. (Laughs.) On top of reading a ton, I was always collecting samples from outside and messing around with plants and animals. I remember one time trying to fill a bottle – which I loved to collect for this purpose – with honeysuckle juice...you can imagine how many honeysuckle flowers I went through. Even as a kid I had the patience to do really tedious tasks it seems. I would get in trouble sometimes for trying to see what would happen when I mixed certain chemicals found under our bathroom sink. I envisioned myself a mad scientist on the hunt for a new elixir. Hurricane Hugo ripped through Mint Hill, N.C. (a small little piece of Charlotte in the far backwoods where I lived until I was 10 years old) and uprooted many trees in my yard. Old trees. Huge trees. One of my favorite things to do was to take a stick and a rock and delicately chisel away the red clay in the roots of the upturned trees…looking for dinosaur fossils and petrified plants. That was the first job I remember dreaming of doing someday…archaeology. Just because the mystery and the excitement of discovering things old and hidden was far too alluring even in those clay dirt clumps. I also briefly thought about becoming an astronaut but every time I got on a tire swing, I’d puke my guts out from motion sickness and decided that wasn’t the job for me (still breaks my heart though). One time I helped a crippled butterfly by taking him from flower to flower and letting him feed because he had a broken wing. I followed bugs around the yard to watch what they’d do. Eventually, I figured the only logical profession for me was a veterinarian. ‘I love animals’ equals ‘veterinarian’ in a child’s brain.
That idea carried me through to high school, actually. There, I also got involved in theater…being painfully shy (bordering on extreme social anxiety) it happened like everything else happens with me. One day I get a wild hair up my ass and decide I’m going to do something crazy and off I go. I’ve always loved singing and was in chorus in elementary school, but was deathly afraid of anyone hearing me singing solo, so going to my first high school play audition and not only having to do a monologue but sing a few songs…honestly, looking back, I don’t know how I got up the nerve to do it, but it landed me a small part as Mrs. Maudie in “To Kill A Mockingbird.” I went on to do a few more plays – even some musicals – direct my own (a really shitty version of “The Hobbit,” which is one of my obsessions), and win a crap ton of those plastic trophies for my performances. It’s true that once you get the performing bug, you never get rid of it so that’s where a lot of my creativity is rooted: in entertaining and directing; and I’m very much into seeking approval and laughter as I think many performers are. I got an academic scholarship to UNC-Chapel Hill and entered as a chemistry major (where I got to mix chemicals like I dreamed of when I was a kid) along with theater as a second major. [I] did great until I got to organic chemistry – or what I like to call “real-world” chemistry – where you have to predict how atoms will behave when they come in contact with one another (not very mathematical and logical like high school chemistry), and, since there are a lot of different kinds of atoms, it’s more of an intuitive art form that I totally suck at.
So I decided to go back to the idea of becoming a veterinarian and switched to a biology major on a pre-vet track. I used to joke that I’d become some sort of performing veterinarian like Steve Erwin or Jeff Corwin since I was still in theater. Unfortunately, and still a decision that I kind of regret, due to my class load being a biology major, chemistry minor, and on the pre-veterinary track, I was forced to either drop theater or stay on another year that my scholarship wouldn’t cover. I chose to drop theater telling myself I’d get back into performing somehow to make up for it. Meanwhile, I was really enjoying my biology classes and more importantly, I just got it. Thinking that way about structures of ecosystems and evolution just came natural. It made sense. To make my résumé for vet-school look impressive, I took an undergraduate research class studying frogs and it didn’t take long for me to completely toss aside the idea of being a vet. Research was going to be my life. I graduated in 2006 and stayed on working in other research labs doing different projects. I had no idea you could make a career out of doing the same silly shit I used to do as a kid like watching the same bug for hours. So that’s where I am now. I’m kind of hesitant to call myself a true scientist because I only have a bachelor’s degree, but, in my heart, I’m pure scientist in intention and drive. When I finally enter the Ph.D. program in neurobiology in a few years (I’m kind of enjoying the scientific bachelor life now where I get to fuck around with all kinds of different things before I settle down with one special project for my degree), I’ll be on my way to eventually having my dream job: being a professor. There I’ll be able to try to lure young minds into the same level of wonder and fascination I’ve had with the world all my life. Not only that, but I’ll be able to exercise a bit of those creative performing muscles. I kind of hope my classes will be those that you never skip because who knows what entertaining mayhem will happen. We’ll just have to see. Right now my work life is anything but dull. I always wish I could talk about what I do on the show, but I have this horrible fear that one day we won’t get funding or I’ll get fired because someone found out about my foul, dirty brain on Obviously Oblivious and can’t have my mouth vomit tarnish their good name. (Laughs.)
I really do lead a secretive life to do the podcast. My family doesn’t even know I do it (I doubt my super conservative father would approve of a single sentence I say on OO; hell, the guy doesn’t even like what I do because he doesn’t believe in evolution) and it’s a recurring nightmare I have of them finding out. Still, Obviously Oblivious is me being me. So, when that day comes, they’ll just have to get over it.
JW: Speaking of scientists, you guys recently had Neil deGrasse Tyson on the show and talked about a variety of things regarding the universe. Is space a favorite area of science for you? If there were one area of science you could work in, regardless of education or finances, what would it be?
EC: Space is one of those things that always fascinated me, but that I knew nothing about. I took some physics classes in college and it’s something that I got very well at that level because of my very mathematical brain, but once you start to apply general mathematical concepts like that to things that are much more complicated, like quantum physics and space, I really struggled to grasp it. I tell everyone who asks me about my interests that if I did not have a husband, any friends, any hobbies, or anything else in my life other than academia, I’d become a physicist. Not because I think physicists don’t or can’t have those things, but because I wouldn’t be able to waste any of my available brain power on anything but trying to understand physics. It’s still kind of a dream I have to be able to get my first Ph.D. in neuroscience and then my second in some area of physics — but right now one thing at a time. Space most appeals to me in its philosophical implications: what it says about us to be such a small part of such a large thing. I’m of course fascinated by black holes, the space-time fabric, dark matter…but I don’t hold any hope of really understanding it on a deep, scientific level. It’s like Golden Grahams. I could spend all day trying to figure out how they cram all that graham into them, but I’m mostly likely going to just shove them in my mouth and enjoy their existence. Now granted after the incredible impact that Neil deGrasse Tyson has had on me from the interview on the show, it seems I could understand what I would like to know about space on a non-expert level with the right teacher, without getting into the tricky math and models. He has definitely become my idol and someone I strive to emulate in being a future educator (and even on the podcast really). The good news is, as far as the one area of science I find most fascinating, it’s where I’m at. If it wasn’t, I’m not the kind of person that could just get by with doing something easier that isn’t what my heart yearns for. I consider myself an incredibly driven and ambitious person, not to mention a frugal master of financial manipulation. (Laughs.) If I wanted it, it would be done. Given that I’m not having children, I have all the time in the world to just keep getting degrees and that’s kind of what I would like to do. I mean why not? Physics is definitely top on my list. Quantum physics is the most fascinating to me currently because it encompasses the search for a single unifying theory of everything. See the Nova special “The Elegant Universe” based on physicist Brian Greene’s book of the same name for more about what that means. It’s on Netflix and online. Brian Greene is to me like Neil deGrasse Tyson is to Mike, though I know much less about him. Dr. Greene and Louis C.K. are my two dream interviews.
JW: You sometimes take some flack for some of the things you like and hype up on the show. I can think of American McGee's Alice as a really good example. But, I was curious, what did you enjoy so much about the game and what are some of your other favorite games as of late? Have you always been a big gaming enthusiast?
EC: The biggest and most important thing about a game to me is its story. I don’t like arcade games usually because I need a reason to be doing the things I’m doing. I need role-playing that puts me in the head of a character in an interesting situation. It’s no secret I’m a little bit twisted. I played Silent Hill a lot, a very dark and traumatic game sometimes, and I read a lot of horror. So when Alice came out — and I was always a fan of the original Alice storyline because it was a little weird and twisted — American McGee took it and made it the biggest mindfuck. It reminded me a lot of the deep, psychological nature of the Silent Hill games; in these games the characters are battling themselves and their tortured history…well, Alice is like that, too. It takes this innocent, imaginative girl and, when her parents die horribly in a fire, she becomes completely insane. Wonderland, which in the Alice stories has resided most likely all in her imagination, becomes a reflection of her shattered mental state. So you’re seeing all the characters from the original story, but they’ve been transformed into horrid versions of themselves. I just love it! Not only that but the music, the atmosphere and the art in the game are phenomenal. It’s an absolute pleasure to play and it sucks you in. Everything has its dark side, including me, and that’s why I took up the persona of the Evil Cheshire Cat from that game. He’s silky in his mannerisms, always lurking in the background, observing, and you never quite know what’s going on in that head of his. That’s me.
I became a “gamer” pretty early on, too. My dad worked in computers and he and his co-worker were always swapping games. The first games I remember playing were Commander Keen: Invasion of the Vorticons and the first few Duke Nukem games…so early 90’s games. I would have been 6 or 7 years old. Then I fell into King’s Quest and Quest for Glory and those sustained my life for a long time. I loved the snarky humor and pop references (actually, there are some mainstream pop trivia that I only know because of those games, and it definitely is my main source of knowledge on folktales and mythology). I am still kind of obsessed with both of those series and have the full collection of both. I think a large fraction of my life has been spent trying to get them to run on the latest Windows every time a new one was released. The early games in those series were all type based. When point-and-click gaming came about I remember thinking ‘Holy SHIT!’ because, up until then, if I wanted to pick up the golden ball hidden under a bridge to give to the frog by the lake who is actually a prince because I need him to get me something of value from the bottom of the lake he’s in (hey, the logic is sound), then I’d need to know how to spell all of those actions. King’s Quest taught me how to type and spell.
These days, the games I really love still have those dark, twisted storylines like Fallout, Bioshock and The Darkness. I love any game it takes forever to play through like The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. True to my early game loves, I also appreciate a good, smart-assed, snarky game like The Longest Journey (a fantastic game!) and in-depth, interesting storylines and characters like the Final Fantasy series (again with games that take forever). Deus Ex has to be my all-time favorite game from the last decade, though. I mean, you get to poison dart, taze and slice people in half with a giant fucking plasma sword in hundreds of ways and take multiple paths in the storyline – which itself is a reason to play the game. The new game in the series, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, due to be released August 23rd (it’s on my Google calendar), looks freaking amazing! I’m super excited about it. I also still haven’t played the Alice sequel, Alice: The Madness Returns, released last month, but I can’t wait. I’ll be on it like white on rice on a paper plate in a snowstorm with a glass of milk as soon as I finish Fallout: New Vegas, which is currently consuming me as only Bethesda games can.
JW: We all know you're an unholy she-devil for never liking Rocky :) What other great pieces of cinema have you abandoned and spit on? What has been your favorite movie you've seen this year?
EC: Oh you and that damn Futzer :D Well…fuck Transformers 2. I don’t care that there are battle scenes and robots transforming and blowing shit up. I want a little more substance to my movies damnit! If you’re a movie with all flash and no substance, chances are I probably hate you. That being said, there really aren’t many movies that I really genuinely hate. I pick on Transformers 2 because some people want to argue that it’s a good movie. There are plenty I just thought were just meh, like Lost in Translation (I think I missed something about that movie), but I kind of look at movie viewing as an experience…if it didn’t make me angry at how bad it was or how much it was relying on cheap tricks, then I’m happy to have watched it and gone through that unique experience even if it didn’t impress me.
While I wasn’t inspired as much as I should have been by Rocky, I still enjoyed watching it. That being said, I almost never watch a movie more than once. Once I’ve experienced it, I want something new, even if it sucks. It drives my husband crazy because he has to wait at least a year before he can get me to watch a movie again. I sort of have to forget enough about the movie to be able to gain something by watching it again. I guess I’m a little weird that way.
This year, I think my favorite movies would have to be Source Code or The Adjustment Bureau (I’m a bit of a romantic). I had to actually look up when they were released because, as people may or may not know, I’m the cheapest woman alive, and so I never go to the theater. Well, that’s not entirely true. As I write this I’m going to see Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 tonight, but it’s a very special occasion. This will be our first movie in theater this year and possibly our last. (Laughs.) We tend to grab up a lot of the movies as they get released on DVD through Netflix. Some…through other means, allegedly :P
It’s rare one movie really stands out to me…there are just a lot I really enjoyed – Paul, X-Men First Class, Rango...hell, even Sucker Punch. I still haven’t seen Thor, Super 8, or Bridesmaids, but I’m guessing I’ll really enjoy those, too. I’m a lover of movies for sure.
JW: You started a personal journey a while back to get in better shape and then started an online page so others could join in to track their health trends. How is that endeavor going so far? Will your plans to have all listeners at the listener party swooning over you come to fruition next month?
EC: AHAHA! Well I hope no one swoons, but I have to tell you it’s absolutely invigorating being able to look at yourself in the mirror and not be depressed about it. My weight loss goals have all been met thanks to the tracking website and advice blog Sparkpeople.com, where, like you mentioned, one of the listeners, Battery, created a “SparkTeam” due to all the ranting I was doing about the site. Listeners can go there and motivate each other, help meet team goals and generally be part of a supportive community if they are on a mission to get healthier. I highly recommend it.
So I’m now in shape and just working to maintain the healthy habits that I’ve learned through the process. Talking about this is always tricky for me, as anyone who has listened to me talk on the show about it might know, because, on one hand, I’m so much happier, stronger, healthier and more confident now than I’ve ever been in my life; and I want to help others reach this level of euphoria, especially when I see that they’re way on the other side of that spectrum. On the other hand, however, people have to get the want and drive to do that at their own pace and can’t be persuaded into it. So it’s like I found something that makes me so happy, but I can’t talk about it because then others will probably resist it even more. Damnit, I just want people to feel as good as I do! I just want to tell them that it’s hard, but, if you do this, you will feel better. That may be naïve of me, but I really feel that way.
I think the most important message though is that you don’t have to give up the food you love. I just ate a damn candy bar and had gelato from my favorite bakery yesterday. You don’t have to give that up to be healthy. You just have to balance it with healthy eating, too (this does not mean starving yourself the rest of the time). If you eat hamburgers all day, yes, you’ll be a lard ass. But the whole point of tracking your food through Sparkpeople is so you know where to put the splurges so you don’t eat more than you burn and that you eat the right stuff. The thing that amazed me the most through all these months of hard work is that the harder I worked, because I was getting healthier, I had energy to do even more things. So I was working harder, but I picked up three more hobbies along the way and I don’t feel worn out or overworked. I worked out, started getting back into my Japanese lessons and I even started volunteering at a local garden.
The time you have is all relative to how energized you feel. You feel like you’re overwhelmed right now and can’t possibly add in an exercise routine because you don’t have any energy left. But working out gives you more energy to work with after a while.
Oh, Jesus, I said I wasn’t going to type much on this question and there I am preaching again. I hope the listeners forgive me. I really am sorry for being so preachy. I hope at least that they understand why I can’t stop talking about it and forgive me. Unfortunately, someone mentioned that it’s like the “born-again” Christian who wants to fix everyone’s lives by spreading Christianity because it worked for them and made them happier. I’d like to think this is a scientifically proven venture of mine, but, then again, maybe it’s just like that. So, anyway, after pissing off a lot of people, I’ve decided I’m just going to teach by example. When I look all fabulous at the listener party, maybe someone will take me seriously. If not, hey, it’s their loss. Wink!
JW: What are some things you'd like to see happen for OO in the next year? Any big plans for the show or any guests we can keep an ear to the ground for?
EC: I would love for OO to stay how it is now. Every week is another treat for me to do as I hope it is for the listeners to hear. I will say that, after the Neil deGrasse Tyson interview, I suddenly had the urge to really, honestly educate our listeners a bit during every show. However, I think the best part about OO is that it is all natural. Other than having a few show topics to turn to if the conversation starts to lull, it’s really effortless (says the woman who doesn’t have to edit the show and post it in the feed). If I started trying to fit a school lesson into the show, it would become forced and lose what I love about it. So we’ll just keep on keeping on.
We might have some interviews, we might not. Mike’s always got something up his sleeve in that regard. Also, if somewhere along the way Mike or Paul decides they want more production in the show since they’re both so damn good at it, then we could incorporate skits or songs, but then again, we might not. Obviously Oblivious will always be, first and foremost, just a place where Mike, Paul and I can just hang out and escape. It’s a little like the Room of Requirement. It can easily incorporate anything we need into it, but all we really need is each other. Sorry, I’m really stoked about seeing Harry Potter tonight.
JW: The University of North Carolina choked this year in the tournament. Any hope for them this coming season? How big of a sports fan are you? Any favorite teams besides your alma mater (pro or college)?
EC: Oh, boy. Well, y’see, the thing is, I’ve been to one sporting event my entire eight years at UNC…and it was because I won tickets from a blood drive. I am really not that into sports, but really only because I’m never exposed to it. I never lived in a dorm or on campus even, and my friends never dragged me to games. When I go to a game or watch UNC basketball on TV, I do get really fired up and, generally, I like to wave Carolina Blue around because it’s nice to have something to identify yourself with like that. However, I know that my real ties to the school are academic and so, while I really want UNC to win, it doesn’t destroy me when we completely suck ass.
That’s fine. I’ll root for Duke (OH THE HORROR! DID I JUST REALLY SAYTHAT!?!). I’m so full of contradictions though because, when listener Slacker Jedi calls in saying Duke is way better than UNC, I get really defensive of my alma mater. But I’ve applied to jobs at Duke and would totally work there...and at the very same time I rant that they can’t even give the right heart to the right person and that they leave a puddle of pee on the hospital floor for days. There’s some weird web of affiliation and loyalty in my brain about it all.
Cat would also like you to check out:
The show at http://www.ObviouslyOblivious.com, and on iTunes under the comedy podcast section. The new iPhone app is here: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app​/podcast-box/id419361759?mt=8; the Droid app here: http://market.android.com/det​ails?id=tv.wizzard.android.obv​iouslyoblivious497&feature=sea​rch_result; and come to the Mediocre Show listener party on Aug. 13 at World Café Live in Philadelphia (see Mediocreshow.com or http://tickets.worldcafelive.com/eventperformances.asp?evt=4027 for details).